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thanks for sharing!

I have always had a lot of discipline but am finding that it's okay to be spontaneous and just experience of lot of things. I'm also trying to catch up on all your posts. I have been busy with my wife away on vacation! But I will catch up on your posts Dani.

I definitely agree that self-discipline can become an obsession, when you want to control EVERYTHING and thus never have any fun. Everything in moderation, after all-- a good balance between self-discipline and letting yourself relax is good, in my opinion.

By the way, I gave Positively Present an award in my latest post :]

Heidi - You're welcome! Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment!

Syd - I agree that it's important to be disciplined, but also to allow for spontaneity in one's life. I hope you've been enjoying your vacation!

Sui - Discipline can absolutely become an obsession, and I think there needs to be a balance between being disciplined and being able to just go with the flow. Thanks so much for the award! :)

Self discipline works for me when I keep my focus on the experience and not the results. Setting up a schedule and forcing myself to do it if it isn't aligned with my purpose doesn't work for me. I also agree with what was said above regarding leaving room for spontaneity. I am a quote collector and those are some great ones. :)

CC - That's a great point. Focusing on experience, rather than results, provides for a completely different type of self-discipline (and highlights one of my favorite concepts of living in the moment!). I'm glad you liked the quotes!

I have recently discovered your blog and I want to tell you how VERY much I appreciate the content and the quality of your presentation. Thanks very much for sharing this wonderful material and your terrific voice.

At least for me, and maybe for a lot of people, self-discipline often sounds a lot like "RULES" which sounds a lot like "LAW." And right away, I inwardly buck and stomp and want to throw off its bridle.

But this view is only true if we look at law as an outwardly imposed set of standards that assumes our deficiencies and attempts to make us better. But what if we saw self-discipline not as an externally imposed law but as an inwardly released expression of self-love? An honoring?

The whole spirit of the thing would change ... and that would - COULD - change everything.

Steph - I'm so happy you've found Positively Present! :) I love writing and sharing what I'm learning about life with others so it really thrills me to receive comments like yours, from a reader who really appreciates the site. Thank you for stopping by and commenting!

Chania Girl - Hahaha, I know what you mean about "rules" and "laws." I'm the type to resist those things too -- but I've tried to think of self-discipline as a positive thing, not as something that has to be done or enforced on me. I like the idea of thinking of self-discipline as an "inwardly-released expression of self-love." Brilliant!

For some reason, commenter Michael Y. was unable to post his comment. Here's what he emailed to me: "A most clever and important post! Once Seneca wrapped these ideas in a great quote : 'The strongest is that person, who is able to control himself.'" Thank you, Michael, for your comment and for sharing that great quote with me and other readers!

I think the very phrase - self discipline - sets people up for failure. It sounds so unpleasant. Changing the focus to I WANT is key in my opinion. Setting daily goals that are aligned with long-term desires (health, fitness, wealth, connectedness) and focusing on why we WANT such things, helps immensely. Instead of saying I need to do XX, saying I WANT to do XX, for A,B,C reasons, changes things completely. Might be nonsense to some, but it's been very helpful for me.
I'm curious - any more room on that blogroll for a fan of yours?!!
Michael

> Success is possible only when you can master your own emotions, appetites, and inclinations
I like that. So simple, but so brilliant and spot on.

H&W - I agree that the phrase "self-discipline" can be very off-putting, making us want to run from it rather than embrace it. I like the idea of using the "I want" phrase. When you think about the things really want, the things that matter most to you, and focus on those things, you're much more likely to live your life in a manner that will help you achieve those goals. Great comment. Thanks!

J.D. - That quote is definitely a simple but brilliant one. It is difficult to master our own emotions, appetites, and inclinations, but I believe that when we do so we really do open ourselves up to be very successful at whatever we set our minds to!

Thanks so much, Dani. I read more of your site last night and I have to say I am even more impressed and completely hooked. I, too, have been slowly working my way out of long-entrenched patterns of negative thinking that have been an obstacle in my life.

As for self-discipline, I think it's tricky. Ten years ago I was a high-level endurance runner. I would definitely say that self-discipline veered into obsession for me and that it wasn't healthy. I was constantly beating up on myself for not reaching a rather mythical standard that I'd set for myself. That said, I think that training became an obsession because there were so many other gaps in my self-esteem at the time that I became dependent on the running to give me some sense of personal value. These days I am trying to choose activities out of love/passion rather than need or in the hope of receiving external validation, and so I am hoping that my proven ability to self-discipline will become an asset rather than a detriment.

Thanks again for your terrific website. Have a great day! Stephanie

One chooses to assume something is easy or hard. The imagined experience follows. To sense life is easy, triggers shifts in perception and discernment.

Steph - Thanks so much for your comment! I'm so glad you're enjoying Positively Present and that you can relate to my goal to overcome negative thinking. With regard to what you wrote about self-discipline, you got exactly what I was trying to get at with the questions at the bottom of the post. Being disciplined is great, but it can turn into an obsession if not managed properly. I'm glad you shared your experience with this here. Thanks!

Liara - Very interesting comment. It's so interesting to think about how people perceive the world and how those perceptions then impact their experiences.

hahahaha, post the whole book for us!! ;) j/k, i have added it to my wishlist, ty.

best in Christ,
whitney

Whitney - Haha, I did give you quite a bit of information from the book! But that's the thing -- there is SO much great info in there that this doesn't even come close to covering all you can learn from it. Hope you get a chance to check it out!

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